"KEVIN SAUCIER" & "SPENCER KNARR" VIA MAILFORM 2018-2019 :
ALAS NO SUPPORT NOR INTEREST NOR ENTHUSIASM FROM THESE 2 FULLGROWN (!) AMERICANS, THESE 'FELLOW' TITANIC COLLECTORS; ONLY THEIR SOUR PUTTING DOWN, PISSING VINEGAR, CLEARLY STEMMING FROM AN IDIOTIC SENSE OF JEALOUSY, SUPERIORITY, EXCLUSIVITY.
HERE IS WHAT IT STARTED WITH, JUST OUT OF NOWHERE, AND WHICH HAD NO 'CAUSE' OR 'REASON' WHATSOEVER OTHER THAN THE MERE PRESENCE OF MY ONLINE DISPLAY OF SCARCE & SPECIAL TITANIC ARTIFACTS AND COLLECTIBLES :
16 Aug 2021: Sudden new harassment, with familiars "Pooooooo", "fckface" [sic], "homophobic poop":
Date: 2021-08-16 05:01
Name: Betty Janes [ LIKELY FAKE IDENTITY ]
Email: [ LIKELY FAKE EMAIL ADDRESS ]
IP: 184.108.40.206 [ VPN SPOOFED SERVER "IN" PERTH, AUSTRALIA ]
Delete your page
You are a homophobic poop
14 Oct 2021: "Kevin Saucier" is again fooled, has again fooled himself, buying a 'FAKE' through auction :
"RARE SHIP'S PULLEY FROM FAMOUS WHITE STAR LINE -OWNERS OF TITANIC & OTHER LINERS" (opens in new window, then please scroll down the listing's page; for bid history please click "27 bids"). The dubious USA seller either thought the STARLINE pulley to be from White Star Line or, more likely?, deliberately mispresented it to attract bidders for obtaining the highest possible auction result ($ 47.00). Logically, White Star (Line) always showed its name in full, "White Star (Line)", never omitting "White"! This pulley's STARLINE ("INC." added in 1931) is identified to be a manufacturer in... farming equipment! Additionally, Titanic's White Star Line never was an "Incorporated" ("Inc.") company during its lifetime. CLICK HERE for a STARLINE pulley example which, along with the star icon, also displays the "INC.".
17 AUG 2018, "SPENCER KNARR" (A "DEAR FRIEND" OF "KEVIN SAUCIER") FALSELY 'ACCUSES' ME VIA MAILFORM OF HAVING MADE MYSELF THE ABOVE PICTURED 4 JULY 2018 EMAIL MESSAGE :
"[...] You forged that email. You know you forged that email. I know you forged that email. [...]"
25 NOV 2018, "SPENCER KNARR" LATER AGAIN VIA MAILFORM MORE FALSE BLAMING & ACCUSING :
"You are garbage." "You know your collection is garbage. Just like you." "Hi stupid." "Hi. you stoopid." "Uou [sic] are busy buying FAKE things and making rubbish designs on bus chair. Noone believes you are real. You and your collation [sic] is fakeeeeee You are fakkkeeee Everyone thinks you're making thiede [sic] messages up!" [ Very well possible this was written by and then sent on behalf of "Kevin Saucier" ]
26 NOV 2018, "SPENCER KNARR" NEXT DAY AGAIN VIA MAILFORM MORE FALSEHOOD & NONSENSE :
"You know your artifacts are fake. [...] Your pieces are all fake. You know that." "Hi stupid. [...] Kevin [...] is a God in this community [ To me he seems more like a rabies Dog who THINKS he is (a) God ] I'd worship his shit [ Dog shit ?! ] "
26 NOV 2018, "SPENCER KNARR" SAME DAY AGAIN VIA MAILFORM, (AGAIN) ON BEHALF OF "KEVIN SAUCIER" HENCE THIS ACCIDENTALLY RETAINED OPENING LINE :
"[Sp]encer! Send this reply to his message block. He wont know if its a troll or not haha! I owe you one!"
26 NOV 2018, "SPENCER KNARR" LATER THAT DAY AGAIN VIA MAILFORM, IN REGARDS THE ABOVE :
"Please delete the post that has the Kevin message. He wrote that to me and only me[,] you had NO right to put in on the web. This is bullying. [sic!] Please take the posts down. Kevin will be so angry at me. Please dont do this." [ What Goes Around Comes Around ] "
27 DEC 2019, "SPENCER KNARR" MORE THAN A YEAR LATER VIA MAILFORM :
"Hi poppy poo poo face. You poo poo poo You're [sic!] pieces are pooo poo You are fake like you're collection My friend k ["Kevin Saucier"] is very successful and rich. Uou poor. He owns titanic you own Pooooo"
CLICK HERE FOR ALL MESSAGES BY "SPENCER KNARR" (/"KEVIN SAUCIER") 2018-2019 (1MB PDF)
NOTE: I have NEVER communicated with "Kevin Saucier" on a (possible) purchase of a wreckwood piece, and as such have NEVER tried to mislead him with a "lowball offer"! ; AGAIN a shameless you-name-it !
Titanic Historical Society (est.1963) has a Facebook group (private) "Titanic Enthusiasts" with address https://facebook.com/groups/thsofficial
There, in Sep 2019, "K Bill Saucier" and "Spencer Knarr" wrote about me this:
"K Bill Saucier": "As we known [sic], that seller is a jerk."
"Spencer Knarr": "jerk is the understatement of the year."
"K Bill Saucier": "I wouldn't take a relic for free from him...really, not even for free."
"Spencer Knarr": "me either [sic]. Nor would I sell him anything - even at four times the price."
"K Bill Saucier": "Right! I already went through that with the idiot. Not at any price... ANY!"
"Spencer Knarr": "the seller [...] is also extremely difficult and troublesome. I would strongly advise caution"
CLICK HERE FOR A SCREENSHOT OF THE 'TITANIC ENTHUSIASTS' FACEBOOK GROUP DISCUSSION
ALL THEIR HATRED & NEGATIVITY FOR WHAT? I DID NO HARM NOR WRONG ! ZIP NADA NIENTE !
Titanic Historical Society's Facebook group 'Titanic Enthusiasts' - The Rules :
"Please be respectful even when you disagree. This is a salon, not a saloon."
"No profanity of ANY kind, sexually vulgar or harassing language. This includes abbreviations."
"When you share a photo from an external source, please give credit."
"We reserve the right to delete a member for any cause without warning for a violation of these rules or the rules of decorum."
So why is THS (Titanic Historical Society) having these strict 'Rules' while not maintaining them?! Is it perhaps because "K Bill Saucier" "is a God in this [Titanic] community"?!
"KEVIN SAUCIER" TO THIS DAY (2022) STILL HAS NOT REACHED OUT TO ME; NOTHING, NOTHING OF ANY SORT; MAYBE LEAST OF ALL A (FAKE) APOLOGY. NOW WHAT DOES THIS FURTHER TELL US?!
Any normal sane civilized person would have expressed respect, support, interest, enthusiasm. Not even to mention all my time and endeavor spent on my collection, and this website; texts, imagery, research, design, building, etc. (and I am only "poor", "stupid", "garbage", "homophobic"(?!), a "jerk", an "idiot", a "poo face", a "fckface" [sic], make "rubbish designs on bus chair", and am "not" "very successful and rich" like "KEVIN SAUCIER" who "owns titanic [sic]" and "is a God in this community" and "[has] pieces in museum exhibitions ect [sic]"). However, everything in my collection is to be considered authentic, from the Titanic time-period as described. What makes it him (them) to falsely blame and accuse me and call me names, and all this for no cause or reason whatsoever? To me the Titanic community always seemed a place of friendly, interested, supportive, like-minded enthusiasts, with "KEVIN SAUCIER" as one of their centerpoint ambassadors. That aside, if you both have nothing positive or constructive to say and are only full of envy, hatred, negativity, disrespect, self-importance, then why not just keep your (big) mouths shut.
THOUGHT: Should the arrogant malicious disrespectful trolls be shunned by the Titanic community?
DID YOU KNOW THIS?:
"Spencer Knarr" since circa 2020 until 2022 advertised his website address on his eBay member account page. This is typically done to avoid fees, by selling outside of eBay, as such benefiting seller and/or buyer (if sold to him/her at a reduced price), and, through that, depriving (!) eBay of its lawful 10-15 % sale fee, which are forms of abuse of the selling platform, and which eBay classifies, logically, as a form of fraudulent activities. Sharing any contact information through eBay by a 'private seller' is a serious violation of eBay policy.
On ebay.com/usr/titanicrelics it used to read: "Greetings, I ve been collecting and researching Titanic for almost twenty years. A small sampling of my collection can be seen at www.titanicrelics.com. Enjoy!". So, he appeared to have been recommending his collection website only, or mainly, as a disguise for his illegally mentioning (advertising) his website address, enabling/encouraging contact outside of eBay for sales outside of eBay!
Here is the applicable section of the eBay user terms:
"Buyers and sellers can't [meant is: are not allowed to] : • Engage in any action with a user on the site designed to complete or facilitate a transaction outside of eBay. • Share or request direct contact information prior to completing a sale. • In any communications with another eBay member, refer to or promote external websites that facilitate sales outside of eBay. • Use contact information obtained through an eBay transaction to offer to buy or sell an item outside of eBay. • List an item and then mention or link to additional identical or related items for sale outside of eBay."
"eBay has invested a great deal to connect interested buyers with great sellers and we want to participate in ongoing transactions with them."
29 JAN 2019, A SUDDEN DISCOVERY BY SSTITANIC.ORG :
"KEVIN SAUCIER" BUYS & EXHIBITS MODERN FAKE PLATE "TITANIC 1911 H&W" £ 387.99 (± $ 500.00) :
Update: Typically, the UK fraudster of these altered boxes etc. is mainly crafting WW1, WW2, H&W, RMS Olympic fakeries, and, apparently after somehow discovering this web page, had begun to change his eBay 'business seller' account username; from "dirtybiker121" (until 2021) into "20-days-to-pay" and then very shortly after into "20_days_to_pay" (2021). On average, this UK fraud, polluting the collectors market, manages to sell a minimum of 25 of these fakes monthly!, roughly 300 yearly! The UK fraud talking porkies on his member account page ('Member since: 04 Nov, 2006'): "I try to list my items as honestly as possible[,] a photo speaks a thousand words, I include any known provenance[,] please remember items are from car boot sales[,] most are from house clearances in the Southampton & Portsmouth Hampshire area.". On that page, as well as in his listings, he omits about his self stamping texts, soldering tags, etc., and yet suggests the objects to be dating from early/mid 1900s. The fraudulent seller's business, "Grandads Tool Shed", is located in Havant, Hampshire, UK. By the way, also to be avoided like the plague are fraud seller "raymarcompany99" (US), and fraud seller "diamondcat_marine_collectables" / "diamondcat_marine_salvage" (UK).
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